http://fictionwriting.tribe.net/thread/808ebda9-6d11-4198-b428-a4c2aa40b864?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://fictionwriting.tribe.net/thread/808ebda9-6d11-4198-b428-a4c2aa40b864#dc70983d-9760-4306-95c8-288322448546 Thanks for your input, Elissa & JM. It turns out I am changing more than a couple of sentences. So that makes it a "new derivative work," I guess! Cheers-- Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:59:00 GMT http://fictionwriting.tribe.net/thread/808ebda9-6d11-4198-b428-a4c2aa40b864#dc70983d-9760-4306-95c8-288322448546 Joy 2008-10-03T03:59:00Z http://fictionwriting.tribe.net/thread/808ebda9-6d11-4198-b428-a4c2aa40b864#2722cc86-06fb-48d5-9537-36a992ad750a I'll take my cue from the U.S. Copyright Office's FAQ, particularly this Q&A: Q: How much do I have to change in my own work to make a new claim of copyright? A: You may make a new claim in your work if the changes are substantial and creative, something more than just editorial changes or minor changes. This would qualify as a new derivative work. For instance, simply making spelling corrections throughout a work does not warrant a new registration, but adding an additional chapter would. See Circular 14, Copyright Registration for Derivative Works, for further information. Source: http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-register.html#change There is no hard and fast definition of "substantial and creative" here, so I don't know if moving paragraphs around qualifies. I'd still say to check with the individual editor. Insofar as a title change goes, titles are not copyrightable. Granted, story submission and copyright are two different things, but at the moment I can't think of a closer analogy. Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:27:18 GMT http://fictionwriting.tribe.net/thread/808ebda9-6d11-4198-b428-a4c2aa40b864#2722cc86-06fb-48d5-9537-36a992ad750a Elissa 2008-10-03T00:27:18Z http://fictionwriting.tribe.net/thread/808ebda9-6d11-4198-b428-a4c2aa40b864#b9e40f11-9541-4992-97f9-5a781ed92da5 And if she edited it, moved some paragraphs around, and gave it a new title? Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:54:57 GMT http://fictionwriting.tribe.net/thread/808ebda9-6d11-4198-b428-a4c2aa40b864#b9e40f11-9541-4992-97f9-5a781ed92da5 JM 2008-10-01T23:54:57Z http://fictionwriting.tribe.net/thread/808ebda9-6d11-4198-b428-a4c2aa40b864#76caa3b4-78c4-4522-93e2-bf2fb6860bab Even with the changes, I think technically it's still previously published. If you find a market that wants only unpublished material, I'd ask whether the story could qualify. Editors differ in their definitions. Some markets take (and pay for) reprints, so long as the rights have returned to you. A story of mine was republished this year that originally appeared in print 20 years ago. Good luck and happy hunting! Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:52:53 GMT http://fictionwriting.tribe.net/thread/808ebda9-6d11-4198-b428-a4c2aa40b864#76caa3b4-78c4-4522-93e2-bf2fb6860bab Elissa 2008-09-29T02:52:53Z http://fictionwriting.tribe.net/thread/808ebda9-6d11-4198-b428-a4c2aa40b864#307d1c04-b6aa-4e2d-a6c5-50e58b894ef2 Hey all, Going through storage, I found the hard copy ms. of a literary fantasy short-short that was published 17 years ago in a free quarterly newspaper distributed only in Seattle and Portland, OR. No pay for it but the "glory." The editor changed the title of the story but nothing else. It's still good and feels like it could go somewhere. If I give the old title back and tweak two sentences, can I send it out again? Thanks, everyone, for your help. Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:00:53 GMT http://fictionwriting.tribe.net/thread/808ebda9-6d11-4198-b428-a4c2aa40b864#307d1c04-b6aa-4e2d-a6c5-50e58b894ef2 Joy 2008-09-29T01:00:53Z